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Post by bluelinebill on Mar 9, 2008 16:34:44 GMT -5
Now it is said that there isn't enough affordable housing for renters in Charlotte.
Well they had lots of low rent housing up town but tore it down and moved babies Mama along with the thug trash out to the east side of Charlotte. You look at any list of calls for the Independence division or Hickory Grove and you will see that most are around (apartment complexes) or section eight housing. Thanks City Center partners you have made my area a high crime zone thanks. I love the loud music at night the gang members the shootings, break-ins drug dealing and all the other crimes that have moved in over the last 10 years. It's just great!
But nothing will be done. In order to solve a problem they would have to admit that there was one. We cant have that. Someone might get the wrong idea about crime in Charlotte and might not buy a $200,000 one room condo up-town.
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Post by bruce on Mar 9, 2008 20:48:11 GMT -5
The same thing has happened out here in the Paw Creek area. 1000 square foot homes built on a slab in about 3 weeks, and then occupied by gangs and thugs.. You know what you are in for when you see a 10 by 10 dog lot ,or a pit bull chained up in the back yard . There is never any yard work done or a blade of grass planted.. Then you start to notice police and medic at all hours coming and going.. I am sure a government check is in the mix somewhere.. You cannot do enough for them!!!
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Post by slappy on Mar 14, 2008 22:50:15 GMT -5
Yes bruce a government check IS involved
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Post by bruce on Mar 15, 2008 9:37:04 GMT -5
What is the best way to get these checks stopped? Our government feeds this problem at all levels. Our local political leadership simply does not have what it takes to speak out and tell the truth about these criminals. POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS ALL THE RAGE IN CHAR- MECK.
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Post by beckyboo on Mar 15, 2008 18:10:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if we put Obama or Hillary in office, the probability of more checks being written increases exponentially. I don't know if you read www.townhall.com website, but there are a lot of conservative think tanks on there with a lot of research and opinion on policy. I know the Republicans write a lot checks too. We have just given government too much control. Also, Obama's 'preacher' is probably right about 'whitey' implementing government programs to get the black vote. It's kind of scary to see things coming to a head so soon. It will only get worse as long as the media focuses on celebrity and ratings 'news'. They totally ignore history. Which makes it (history) totally able to repeat itself. People just don't know how good we have it here in the US. My family of 6 is not even 'middle class'. But i am very thankful that my husband has a job. We have never had a new vehicle, we have never had health insurance until the past 3 years. But still, we don't live in South Africa where all the politicians are Totally corrupt and steal all the money that that rich country has, because they believe Marxist lies. If our country will stop rewarding unwed pregnancy, and make all the girls who get pregnant while in highschool, our under 18 give their children to families who want them, it will help with a lot of problems. Crime, education, poverty....And I do know that there are more families that are waiting to adopt black babies, than there are babies. My friend takes care of newborn crack babies, babies dropped off or abandoned in the hospital, 90% black, and they all have families waiting to adopt them. And it should be mandatory, that after your 2nd unwed pregnancy, you have to give your child up. We need more orphanages. Even they can do a better job than uneducated teenagers who get their values from the entertainment industry. Do you realize that most black males have never seen a Dad get up and go to work everyday to support a family? Neither have the females. And that is a growing problem in the white community now, as that mentality of promiscuity has spread like wildfire since the 60's and 70's. Whoooo, sorry for the rant. I'm still upset over the ignorant mentality of American voters. I honestly think that if you don't pay taxes, you shouldn't be able to vote. It amounts to taxation without representation. I know that we couldn't really do that, because it wouldn't be just, but.....it's a thought. |
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Post by quint on Apr 10, 2008 12:17:50 GMT -5
The blacks vote for anyone that promises more entitlements and free-bees. It's a fact that if you build low income Section 8 housing for Blacks they will systematically destroy it well inside of a year. I challenge anyone to show us all a Section 8 housing complex that has been occupied for over 5 years that isn't a haven for drugs, violent crime and isn't in need of demolition. It's time to cut off the hand that feeds and make the Black race stand up for itself and start doing the right thing and knock off the crap.
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Post by bruce on Apr 10, 2008 20:28:08 GMT -5
Quint with talk like that the liberals will call you a bigot, racist, uncaring hate monger, republican , also lets throw in homophobic for good measure.And yes they can tear up a house in less time than it takes to build it..
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Post by Bob Dobalina on Apr 11, 2008 3:17:56 GMT -5
Quint with talk like that the liberals will call you a bigot, racist, uncaring hate monger, republican , also lets throw in homophobic for good measure.And yes they can tear up a house in less time than it takes to build it.. I don't think he's racist at all. He just is like every other white person on this board. I applaud you guys for saying what you feel about blacks and black society in general. At least you tell it like it is. I love it when I know where I stand with people. I prefer to know that you don't like me or want my kind around. It is well appreciated that you can rant and rave all of this garbage without having any idea about any solutions. Good job to all with the same opinions! I can feel the love for sure. I pray that you all stay safe and isolated in your nice communities. With good folks like you around Charlotte things are sure to improve in no time.  |
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Post by bruce on Apr 11, 2008 7:43:43 GMT -5
Poor old Bob,,,Will you be inviting a lot of friends to your pity party.
YOU DON'T KNOW A THING AT ALL about me or my life, but I do know what I see on tv every night. A parade of black youth arrested for violent crime and drugs. Whites are also arrested BOB,,, but not as many percentage wise.
I guess you would call me racist when I cared for a young black man for 3 years who has mental problems, and yes he lived with my family for a while.
I guess you would call me racist when I carried him to work for years. Will you also call me racist when I SAW TO IT HE HAD FOOD WHEN HE WAS ABLE TO LIVE ON HIS OWN.
His family was section 8 and the government did everything for them but breath . They would not help him at all but would show up to spend his tax rebate check when it come .
15 years later the result is 7 more children added to the government burden. No black male in the picture to raise them either.
You really don't have a clue, BOB!!!
The black race has the same problems the white race has. The difference is that Blacks have been LIED to by rich white left wing liberals, who want victims to keep them in power. Black people do have it bad though they are constantly told they are victims and it is someone else's fault.
But while there are some in black leadership who speak out they are shouted down and called uncle toms by those like Obama's preacher. .In my business all are treated the same .EVEN YOU BOB. I am still waiting for you to tell us all about this counter culture name you use to post by.
I am glad to know where you stand in the black community also, but unlike me Bob, all you have is words, I do have some deeds to go along with my views. And I am not patting myself on the back. I just did what needed to be done at the time.
You are so ate up with calling others racist all you have become is a ,hate filled ,bitter ,unforgiving , victim mentality, black man.
OH BY THE WAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO LUNCH TODAY...I AM BUYING.
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Post by bruce on Apr 11, 2008 17:04:34 GMT -5
No really,, Bob I would love to buy you lunch.So you could see that I don't wear a sheet over my head and act like a backwoods redneck who beats his wife when she does not fetch his next beer fast enough. You will find that I am just a plain old working man who goes out of his way to treat people fair. how is that for a start at race relations.
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Post by lalagirl on Apr 11, 2008 19:47:34 GMT -5
Well Bob, seeing as how you're a black man. What is your solution? I'm sure you're not biased or racist, right?  ? |
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Post by JCH on Apr 12, 2008 10:29:57 GMT -5
I understand Bob feeling a little bit hostile, as a lot of these posts have a racist connotation, although I believe that is not their intention or platform. I really do believe that everyone on this board is just frustrated with crime in general and especially the disproportionate amount of crimes committed by blacks. While we may seem to generalize the black race, this is probably for the most part not intentional. I've seen my share of white trash on this site that I feel just as much resentment towards. But we have to be honest and admit that there is a problem in the black community and it affects us all, regardless of race. So, please Bob don't take these comments personally and turn these legitimate problems into something so simple as race. That's the easy way out and it solves nothing. And, yes I hope I stay safe in my nice community too - that's why I try to be informed about crimes in this city. Obviously this has been of interest to you as well since you were on this site. And, no we may not implement any immediate solutions to these problems, but at least it gets people talking and hopefully inspires people to be more involved in their communities instead of just sitting by idly hoping for things to change on their own.
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Post by bruce on Apr 12, 2008 10:52:03 GMT -5
Thank you JCH .This is a well thought out response to Bobs reply and I thank you for that. To me Bob has been influenced by people like the nation of islam because they believe there is no way a white man can understand a black mans plight in todays world.
I do understand human nature enough to say that we are all the same and have the same hopes and hurts. He seems to come from a perspective of ,anger and hopelessness . I do not feel this way.
What we are describing here is BEHAVIOR in the black community bob ,not that blacks are inferior in any way.
Every time someone tells you how bad the blacks have it you should look at the messenger closely and see what they are about.
I cannot reason your hurts away with a argument because they were not reasoned into you. A change of heart is the answer.
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Post by Chris man come on on Apr 12, 2008 10:58:02 GMT -5
Maybe we could hire the planes used for the canker worm spraying and fly over these neighborhoods with birth control spray?? Or maybe a free spay/neuter clinic for humans. I mean let's face it, we worry more about placing puppies into homes than we do children. There should be certain minimal criteria met for anyone planning to have a child:
1) You must have steady legal income from a job that can be documented through tax returns
2) You must not be on drugs
3) You agree to accept responsibility for any crimes that your child commits up to the age
of 18
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Post by bruce on Apr 12, 2008 11:21:01 GMT -5
It appears bob has a hit and run philosophy when it comes to making replies on this website. Stay and fight Bob for what you believe maybe we can all learn something.
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Post by Bob Dobalina on Apr 14, 2008 2:54:08 GMT -5
I understand Bob feeling a little bit hostile, as a lot of these posts have a racist connotation, although I believe that is not their intention or platform. I really do believe that everyone on this board is just frustrated with crime in general and especially the disproportionate amount of crimes committed by blacks. While we may seem to generalize the black race, this is probably for the most part not intentional. I've seen my share of white trash on this site that I feel just as much resentment towards. But we have to be honest and admit that there is a problem in the black community and it affects us all, regardless of race. So, please Bob don't take these comments personally and turn these legitimate problems into something so simple as race. That's the easy way out and it solves nothing. And, yes I hope I stay safe in my nice community too - that's why I try to be informed about crimes in this city. Obviously this has been of interest to you as well since you were on this site. And, no we may not implement any immediate solutions to these problems, but at least it gets people talking and hopefully inspires people to be more involved in their communities instead of just sitting by idly hoping for things to change on their own. First off, to the other comments. Don't mistake anything I said for a pity party. I am FAR from a victim BRUCE! Oh and thanks for not patting yourself on the back.  In response to this post. I really just have fun with these folks. Obviously I AM concerned about the crime and the fact that a lot of young black men are often the faces you see on the news. Its troubling to me and others I know so we are doing what we can. The problem I have is these closet racist who claim they are "just concerned" but every chance they get they make reference to everything but the crime itself. Stick to the facts and don't make an racist a$$ of yourself and I can respect your comments. I really am digusted with people like some of these folks. You would think they had nothing else in th world to discuss. So they poke at me and try to get me to explain to them what I am doing or what my solutions are. The thing is I AM NOT THE ONE RUNNING MY TRAP EVERY DAY ABOUT IT. I HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO CONCERN MYSELF WITH!! THAT IS WHY I DON'T REPLY WHEN THEY WANT ME TO. So thanks for your post you had some very valid points. As for you Bruce and anybody else whose toes I stepped on with my comments. I stick to them DESPITE what you did for ONE black kid years ago. I OWE YOU NOTHING ABOUT THE NAME I POST WITH, ABOUT MY SOLUTIONS, NOTHING! You are grown and ignorant folks who I would waste my solutions on. All you would do is what you're doing now. SQUAT. Go to your klan rally fool and get off me! Oh and don't mistake this for anger. I don't do that behind a keyboard. Thats way too easy.  |
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Post by CCI on Apr 14, 2008 6:06:14 GMT -5
Oh really Bob, how do you show your anger? BTW, whatever happened to your alter ego, mlk2day? You seem to like to throw the word word racist around an awful lot. Don't forget blacks can be racist too and looks like you've earned the title of a racist a** yourself. Referring to the "klan", really now when are you gonna let that go? At least most of the people on this site are actually concerned about the crime in charlote, unlike you who is just on here to "have fun with these folks". |
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Post by bruce on Apr 14, 2008 8:34:45 GMT -5
I guess you told me BOB.!!!! You can dish it out but you can't take it.
I still say it is fair to ask you what your solutions are if you ask me the same thing.
You appear to be a very immature person when you like to (have fun with these folks) the way you do. I would guess you are the bullying type. The kind that starts something and then runs away.
You are so blind to your own anger , it is clear to everyone here just how angry you really are .
The klan reference shows what you are all about.
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Post by bruce on Apr 14, 2008 9:37:41 GMT -5
One more thing Bob ,you say you owe us nothing, I can accept that you feel that way but I would bet that you feel the world owes you more than a little..
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Post by lorene on Apr 14, 2008 14:25:06 GMT -5
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It is well appreciated that you can rant and rave all of this garbage without having any idea about any solutions. [/quote]
ITA Bob!
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Post by slappy on Apr 14, 2008 23:27:14 GMT -5
First off, to the other comments. Don't mistake anything I said for a pity party. I am FAR from a victim BRUCE! Oh and thanks for not patting yourself on the back. In response to this post. I really just have fun with these folks. Obviously I AM concerned about the crime and the fact that a lot of young black men are often the faces you see on the news. Its troubling to me and others I know so we are doing what we can. The problem I have is these closet racist who claim they are "just concerned" but every chance they get they make reference to everything but the crime itself. Stick to the facts and don't make an racist a$$ of yourself and I can respect your comments. I really am digusted with people like some of these folks. You would think they had nothing else in th world to discuss. So they poke at me and try to get me to explain to them what I am doing or what my solutions are. The thing is I AM NOT THE ONE RUNNING MY TRAP EVERY DAY ABOUT IT. I HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO CONCERN MYSELF WITH!! THAT IS WHY I DON'T REPLY WHEN THEY WANT ME TO. So thanks for your post you had some very valid points. As for you Bruce and anybody else whose toes I stepped on with my comments. I stick to them DESPITE what you did for ONE black kid years ago. I OWE YOU NOTHING ABOUT THE NAME I POST WITH, ABOUT MY SOLUTIONS, NOTHING! You are grown and ignorant folks who I would waste my solutions on. All you would do is what you're doing now. SQUAT. Go to your klan rally fool and get off me! Oh and don't mistake this for anger. I don't do that behind a keyboard. Thats way too easy. [/quote] BOB, It is obvious that you are educated and Angry.The klan rally comment, you are better than that. I am interested in your ideas for a solution to the crime issue. the current system isnt working. And sadly enough a majority of inner city crimes are commited by young black males. These crimes are becoming more violent. Even if the victem complies they are gravely injured or murdered as a result. It seems that pop culture has made being a "thug" cool. The DA and court system has made being a thug easy, do the crime and walk. repeat violent offenders are allowed to walk out of jail, to commit more crime. A recent police chase showcased the attitude of these criminals, as they were escorted into intake processing they were laughing and making jokes have a great day |
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Post by bruce on Apr 15, 2008 17:02:55 GMT -5
Slappy ,these nation of islam types are never going to listen to a white man .He said so in his last post.
No matter how many times you extend a olive branch you will get it handed back to you broke in half.
I tried but it seems that he dislikes me the most .
I am still hopeful that bob can somehow come to terms with his intense anger at me and those who post here.
What's it going to take bob for us to come to some agreement on these issue that are discussed here?
Your anger will turn to bitterness and depression if it is not addressed . I know because I have been there.
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Post by Bob Dobalina on Apr 18, 2008 0:37:50 GMT -5
First off, to the other comments. Don't mistake anything I said for a pity party. I am FAR from a victim BRUCE! Oh and thanks for not patting yourself on the back. In response to this post. I really just have fun with these folks. Obviously I AM concerned about the crime and the fact that a lot of young black men are often the faces you see on the news. Its troubling to me and others I know so we are doing what we can. The problem I have is these closet racist who claim they are "just concerned" but every chance they get they make reference to everything but the crime itself. Stick to the facts and don't make an racist a$$ of yourself and I can respect your comments. I really am disgusted with people like some of these folks. You would think they had nothing else in th world to discuss. So they poke at me and try to get me to explain to them what I am doing or what my solutions are. The thing is I AM NOT THE ONE RUNNING MY TRAP EVERY DAY ABOUT IT. I HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO CONCERN MYSELF WITH!! THAT IS WHY I DON'T REPLY WHEN THEY WANT ME TO. So thanks for your post you had some very valid points. As for you Bruce and anybody else whose toes I stepped on with my comments. I stick to them DESPITE what you did for ONE black kid years ago. I OWE YOU NOTHING ABOUT THE NAME I POST WITH, ABOUT MY SOLUTIONS, NOTHING! You are grown and ignorant folks who I would waste my solutions on. All you would do is what you're doing now. SQUAT. Go to your klan rally fool and get off me! Oh and don't mistake this for anger. I don't do that behind a keyboard. Thats way too easy. BOB, It is obvious that you are educated and Angry.The klan rally comment, you are better than that. I am interested in your ideas for a solution to the crime issue. the current system isn't working. And sadly enough a majority of inner city crimes are committed by young black males. These crimes are becoming more violent. Even if the victim complies they are gravely injured or murdered as a result. It seems that pop culture has made being a "thug" cool. The DA and court system has made being a thug easy, do the crime and walk. repeat violent offenders are allowed to walk out of jail, to commit more crime. A recent police chase showcased the attitude of these criminals, as they were escorted into intake processing they were laughing and making jokes have a great day [/quote] Slappy Let me just first say that I am NOT angry. I don't have a reason to be angry. I see the world a lot differently than you and others obviously. These young punks who want to be thugs are a huge problem in our community. It starts with bad parenting and/or lack of parenting coupled with a terrible school system and a judicial system that is a joke. So now here we are with a 'black youth' crime wave. Those who care to go to the core of the truth know where and how to combat this problem but don't have the support from both entities I mentioned before. (CMS, Meck Co Courts). These young men are the real angry people because nobody listens to them!! The solution for every time they act out in school is to kick them out. I am not talking about violent outburst either. I have seen first hand how out of fear teachers just don't bother to reach any of them. It starts now at Kindergarten all they way through middle school and high school. So they are frustrated and yes, angry!! Have any of you ever felt that you would automatically become a failure in life because of who you are? That is a heavy burden to carry I can't begin to tell you. That is what some of these kids feel like, and truthfully none of your care about that. You just want to see them all locked up for life. Be honest about it, you do. So anyway I could go on and on but I won't. The type of stuff I see here is obvious racism and I don't throw that around easily but I call it like I see it. If folks can't handle that then too bad. We all are adults here I assume and its a FACT that racism is still alive and well in Charlotte and surrounding. Deal with it because I do! Also, I have never posted under any other name as I do not and will not run from what I say. I am not a coward or a bully either. I am someone who is just man enough to say what I feel and stand by it. People here know what they have said all over these message boards and if they are not man/woman enough to stand by their comments then God bless them!! Nobody here knows me personally or will ever be in a position to affect the outcome of my life. So why be angry? I just think its a real shame that grown folks sit around behind a keyboard and make fun of people who are on section 8 or who can't find employment. They say things about these people that they really have know idea about. I guess it makes them feel better about themselves I dont' know. Oh and Bob I am not NOI!! My Lord and Saviour is Jesus Christ!! I guess you took that shot at me for calling you Klan huh? Grow up bro!! |
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Post by JCH on Apr 18, 2008 10:24:15 GMT -5
Bob, I believe that Section 8 has it's place and that affordable housing is necessary. It just seems that all too often the privilege of receiving government help is abused and unappreciated by the recipients. I have no desire to make fun of people for needing assistance, but I think both you and I (black & white) should be appalled that the very people that our taxes take care of will turn around and steal from us. I think that is where the anger comes from in these posts about Section 8.
I agree with you that there is anger at the core of these issues, but I am not really sure where this originates. I do not believe that the schools (while not top notch in education) are responsible for social issues, nor is it their responsibility to reach out to troubled youths. They are meant to educate - not to parent or rehabilitate. School is free and if you choose to go and learn then you will benefit. I also agree that parenting (or lack of) is part of the problem. On the other hand, I have seen many good black women/parents lose their children to this thug culture. So that leads me to believe there are many other issues involved in this problem. Black pop culture has it's hands bloodied by spouting it's message that drugs, money, cars and women make a man and a general lack of respect for anyone who stands in your way is admirable as long as you can acquire the material things you need. Being a thug is glamorous on MTV and not so glamorous on WSOCTV news.
And, no, I have never thought I would automatically be a failure because of who I was. If you believe that is how they feel - then who do you think tells them this? And if we were to listen to them what would they tell us? I just ask for your opinion on these things, as I know you cannot speak for them.
As far as racism, well I won't say that it doesn't exist; however, I certainly don't believe that it is the grand conspiracy that a lot of people make it out to be. I honestly believe that many blacks whether knowingly or unknowingly keep it at the forefront and do their race a great injustice. There will always be some who won't like a person for their race, gender or religion - that is just the world we live in. I think most people live their lives and in the process of trying to provide for themselves and their family, have little time to worry about someone's race. I, personally, cannot think of one instance where I have acted based on race alone. And, yes, I will say that I will not be speeding over to Boulevard Homes - not because it is predominately black, but because it is crime-ridden. If people are fearful of a race it is because the actions of some have created this fear.
Your opinion is respected; however, I would rather hear your constructive comments than posts or replies that incite or defend silly name calling.
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Post by spankysbbq on Apr 21, 2008 14:58:17 GMT -5
Major +1 for JCH. Well said.
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Post by Big Dee on Apr 22, 2008 21:34:03 GMT -5
Okay I am from Cleveland Ohio.I am looking forward to moving to Charlotte next year.Since I have been reading all these post all I have seen is negative threads.Not to sound crazy or anything but you guys don't know what crime is until you have lived here and thats all I'm going to say about that.But I want you to tell me what are some of the good reasons to live in Charlotte because I visited the city in March and will be back in June.In Cleveland something is going on 24/7/365 but it is like that in every major city in the world.I understand Charlotte is a growing city and with all that comes the ugly.
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Post by slappy on Apr 22, 2008 22:50:43 GMT -5
Big Dee, Come on down. As bad as crime is getting here, it is NOTHING compared to the northern rust belt cities. Charlotte is clean,( even the " hoods" are clean and have trees and are free of grafitti, for the most part )There are Jobs, If you cant find work here , your not looking. Housing is affordable. Just keep in mind Charlotte is a Big city, with a small town attitude, and the public transit isnt the best so you will need a car. Have a great day.
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Post by spankysbbq on Apr 23, 2008 8:56:33 GMT -5
The ugly definately is here, but the city as a whole is pretty nice. Some of the good things are that we have 4 seasons here. No mess like Winter and July-August. You're 2 hours from skiing and 3 hours from the beach. We have several lakes in the area if you have a boat or plan to get one.
You'll also never haev trouble getting good seats to a basketball game. lol
There's plenty of nice things about Charlotte, you just need to find what you like.
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Post by JCH on Apr 23, 2008 10:07:50 GMT -5
Big Dee, sorry you had to wade through the negative comments, but obviously this website is called "Crime In Charlotte" so most of us don't have too many happy posts about crime! I love Charlotte - been here all my life. Growth is a good thing but, as you said, the ugly comes with it. spankysbbq covered a lot and to add to that, I will say that Charlotte is a beautiful, friendly city and the lingering small town attitude brings with it a lot of good ol' southern hospitality. I see you posted in APARTMENTS/SECTION-8/CRIME - you might find a different kind of hospitality in these areas . Anyway, come on down and join us! |
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Post by Big Dee on Apr 23, 2008 14:20:12 GMT -5
Okay It's settled Charoltte will be my home.While we were down there in March.When looking for a place to live come next year.I make good money so some of the apartments looked really nice and afordable.Come to find out they were SECTION 8.Look Im not going to bash it or run it through the mud but I've seen some of the ill effects of Section 8.I grew up in a city where 90% of the people were the true middle class I mean working,taking care their houses and very trustworthy neighbors.The early 80's thing went from peaceful to horrible corupt government,crackand caring left my city.Until this day I take a ride through every once in a while and think of the good times I had growing up in East Cleveland.My challenge to you is don't complain if you see something wrong demand your city government to do something now,don't wait until its to late.
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