What's your concept of "Thug"?

[pacino2367]

I am interested in examining the community's response in defining what their concepts of a "Thug" are, their image of what a "Thug" appears to be, and the behavior which seems to be affiliated with a "Thug". No holds barred!

[CarolinaNeedsGroupTherapy]

Here's my no holds barred reply:

Thugs are normally black, or 'colored people' for those of you are too politically correct. A majority of thugs are early adults and teenagers. It is rare, if ever, for a hard working white man to rape, steal, or kill another human being. It is almost always the 'black man' who committed the crime and its not because of the color of their skin. It is the culture we live in!

I'm not saying all blacks are bad! There are definitely good people in every social circle - you cannot deny that because it is fact. There are African Americans who are protecting us and are fighting over in Iraq - those souls are surely patriots.

However, there is a huge problem with the mentality of most blacks this day in age. I think it is more than fair to blame the people getting rich on Rap lyrics and Video games that promote rape, murder, and violence. The influence that young black children face is pathetic at best. So what do we do? What is a solution? Is there a solution without an all out war?

Everyone who winds up 'profiling people' simply for their race gets hate mail - so I am expecting lots of it. But on the other hand, everyone here should be honest with each other! It is more certain than ever before - this day in age isn't nearly as bright as it used to be. Its going to have to get MUCH worse before it gets better.

Having survived WWII and Vietnam - I feel that eventually we will be fighting a war here at home. A culture war! Of course this is just my opinion... Good and ethical people are starting to get fed up with crime that is going unpunished.

Rarely does anything change unless everyone takes massive action. No one is willing to step up to the plate and meet with the leaders of the our community to discuss the problem and implement a strategy to fix it. 30 people with picket signs won't do the job! 30,000 might!

People of all colors have lost their honesty, integrity, and pride they once had. It will take another 9/11 for everyone to be 'buddy buddy" but even the kindness would only be temporary.

Isn't it amazing how people work together in crisis, but hate each other the rest of the time?

This is not a 'white power' article. I don't feel that blacks are less capable than whites. We are all given a mind. If you were around long enough, you remember what happened to the Jews in WWII. I wouldn't be surprised if a similar war happens here in the US with both illegal aliens and with the black community.

I will go on the record and say I am tired of my freedom and liberties being stripped from me. Most people I know don't even feel safe going outside after dark - it is that way in all parts of the world, but shouldn't be that way here in the USA!

[sanrex]

I think a thug can be any race or color but it appears that the vast majority in our community are young black males. In my opinion a thug is someone who commits a crime with total disrespect for the safety of the innocent victims or bystanders. Just look at all the recent armed robberies in businesses where numerous innocent people were present and could easily have been harmed. I believe a large majority of these crimes are gang related and probably part of the initiation process and a way for them to "prove" themselves. Just read the section with "myspace" profiles and its obvious they have no respect for anyone or anything.

[Tag]

Sad, but true. Look at modern day Sudan or Darfur! The black culture thrives on stealing from others and being uncivilized.

I think both of you guys are right - Sanrex there are many more blacks committing crime than whites. The number that is shocking is the per capita black crime rate.

If these thugs can afford a computer and internet to get on myspace - they should be removed from the welfare roles!

[sanrex]

they should also be removed from welfare considering the money made dealing drugs and ability to buy weapons.

[Nick Kasoff]

pacino2367 said:

I am interested in examining the community's response in defining what their concepts of a "Thug" are, their image of what a "Thug" appears to be, and the behavior which seems to be affiliated with a "Thug". No holds barred!

You can see MY concept of thug every day, on my website www.thugreport.com.

[spankysbbq]

A thug, to me, is someone who is a repeat offender who tries to act like a bad-ass and try to intimidate people for whatever reason they see fit.

Visually, a thug (or wannabe thug) is someone who has their pants around the knees, shirts 12 sizes too big, sideways hats, gold teeth/fronts, and who can't complete a single sentence without ending it with "ya heard", "na' mean (know what I mean?), "my n****", or some profanity.

A thug is also someone who would rather resort to violence no matter how easilt the situation could be handled otherwise.

A thug also likes to reach for his/her waistband area to make you believe the other black stereotype that all black people carry guns all the time.

Many are loud and obnoxious. Some like to try to convince people how bad they are because they got shot (at) or because they participate in the trafficking of drugs.


Race is not a determining factor for my definition, but I certainly seem to see many more blacks than whites acting like thugs. I've seen a handful of latinos doing it as well as some asian kids.

Then you've got the suburban white kid who dresses like he's appearing in a rap video, but that's another subject.

[dawnee]

A THUG IS ANYONE WHO IS ALWAYS IN TROUBLE, DOES NOT WORK AND STEALS FROM HONEST HARD WORKING PEOPLE AND SOMEONE ALWAYS TRYING TO SOMETHING FOR NOTHING

[bruce]

A thug is a young black male,raised by his grandma,no dad in his life..
He has bought into all the lies told to him by the rappers and he runs the streets with no authority over him.
The black leadership in this country pretends there is no problem and will not discuss it at all.

[Bob Dobalina]

I am curious to find out who in "Black Leadership" you have spoken to Bruce?? Name one.

[lalagirl]

how about ole al sharpton. he always seems to think its about discrimination or someone elses fault.

[bruce]

Thanks for the response lalagirl . To start with Bob lets talk about ,Al, Jesse, even that nut at Obama's church. Why is it that you think I have to personally talk to them? I have heard that there are some black ministers who will tell the truth but they are shouted down and called names,,, but the national leadership is awfully quiet on the subject. Why don't you speak out on the problem Bob? All I know is this, if you are white and tell the truth in this country you are hated, no matter how you say it. AS A OLD COUNTRY MAN ONCE TOLD ME, IF YOU THINK A LIE CAN MAKE YOU MAD , WAIT TILL YOU HEAR THE TRUTH!!! HEARING THE TRUTH IS EASY ACCEPTING IT IS THE HARD PART.....

[beckyboo]

Just a little 'aside'...I have seen a lot of white gangster-thug wanna-be's in the south charlotte/fort mill area. It's sad, but they're into the rap music, the clothes, the drugs, etc. I see a lot of them in the juvenile court system.

[bruce]

I agree that there is a lot of white gangster wanna-be's in the charlotte area. I worked in a lock up facility for wild child children and they were there too,along with the others.I see them everywhere,white and black.. Sorry and no account does not have a color.This problem will not go away till families become intact again and men show young boys how to be a man. Absent fathers cause a multitude of problems.

[Bob Dobalina]

Okay Bob I will say this: You will not change a thing if you are just on the sidelines running your mouth. That's what an old country WOMAN told me!

If you care so much and this stuff consumes you to the point where that's all you talk about here, then do something.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the _______. Fill in the blank Bruce.

If you are truly and intelligent man, you will keep your mouth shut! Let people who are all about bringing change to the community HANDLE THEIR BUSINESS.

Anything else only amounts to the racist crap you all have been hollering from day one!

[bruce]

Ok Bob ,it looks like I really hit a nerve with you. As for myself I am entitled to my opinion and I am doing something about it, you just don't like what I say. One thing that I do all the time is talk to young men black and white and encourage them to think for themselves and look to God for answers .If I sound like a racist to you then I will truly be more careful in how I say things. I can take criticism and be corrected !!! The answer for all of these problems was taken care of on a cross 2 thousand years ago.
I never said that the black leadership was all the problem,just that they were quiet about it.
I know that there are many black men who work hard at solving problems in the black community,and they deserve a lot of credit.
But one thing is for certain, telling me to shut up and calling me a racist is not the answer.

I just believe that when you look at our culture ,black and white it is a ugly thing to behold.
LOOK at all of these people posted on this website,what do you see?Tell me there is not a problem in the black culture.
Yes whites to ...

Our young men have been lied to about what it really means to be a man.
Where do they go for guidience ? MTV,BET.
It all starts at home and without a question black families have dropped the ball and you see the result here on this website.
The government and money is not the answer. If it were, these problems would have been solved long ago.
Money is never the answer a change of heart is the answer.

So why did you use Bob Dobalina as your name to post by. Tell me more about this counterculture mindset built around this name.
If I am describing it wrong please correct me.

What you chose to call yourself speaks volumes about your thinking.
And one last thing Bob ,When criminals black and white steal from me constantly and our local government does nothing I am entitled to speak out because these criminals are causing me a lot of grief.I don't get a check in the mail, I have to earn mine

Every time they steal several thousand dollars in MY tools THEY SENTENCE ME TO ANOTHER MONTH OF HARD LABOR TO GET THE MONEY BACK TO REPLACE THEM. THIS CAUSES ME TO HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE, I guess I should just shut up and just get over it and be quiet and let someone
else HANDLE THEIR BUSINESS.

[bluelinebill]

A THUG is one who disregards the rules of sociaty and behavor and cares for no one but themselfs or those in their groupe.

The real problem transcends race and is one of the heart and soul.
Those you see here (arrest photos) for the most part have bought into the false world created by our materialistic society. A world that tells them that they have to have THINGS and obtain material items to be somebody. That success in the world is measured by money and cars and street cred.
That attitude along with a entertainment culture that constantly shows in Film's, games and song disrespect for women, the law's of society, and reduces the value of a human beings life to a faceless target.
As a culture we have lost the the idea of the value of a single human life and the need to nurture it. We have forgotten one of the oldest ideas around. That [w]e are all connected. That what one does affects us all. Good or bad we will all be affected by the actions we take and those of others.
It is very easy to lock away people. I do believe that those who break the law should pay a price. We have to remember that some of those people will return to the world one day.
Its up to us to a degree to decide what kind of person that will be.
A bitter hardened human or someone who can be part of the world.

[lalagirl]

Is Bob Dobalina a.k.a mlk2day?

[Could we fix it with a Hug]

Bob said:

Okay Bob I will say this: You will not change a thing if you are just on the sidelines running your mouth. That's what an old country WOMAN told me!

If you care so much and this stuff consumes you to the point where that's all you talk about here, then do something.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the _______. Fill in the blank Bruce.

If you are truly and intelligent man, you will keep your mouth shut! Let people who are all about bringing change to the community HANDLE THEIR BUSINESS.

Anything else only amounts to the racist crap you all have been hollering from day one!

I was just thinking Bob that I had heard someone (I can't remember if it was an OLD man or a woman....) say that if you don't talk about it, you don't care and if you just talk about it, you don't care.

I know Bruce personally and several years ago I told him the same thing you did - if you care about it - DO something about it. And he HAS done and IS doing what he believes will make a difference. And he DOES contact and interact with city/county officials on a regular basis because this is a passion of his - to protect his/our city and it's citizens from crime and abuse.

Now, I am not trying to dis YOU personally - but what I'd like to know is, who are these people handling all this "business" of keeping Charlotte safe from thugs and the like? Perhaps we can put them in touch with Bruce or some of the other people on this post who seem to be more interested in seeing results than just assuming that if they leave it up to other people to HANDLE business - that business will be done successfully.

[bruce]

;D Thanks for that , I am now over my hurt feelings and don't need government assistance anymore.